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Convenient Thomas Jefferson Fidelity

I just received an amazingly convenient reading of Thomas Jefferson today and I would like for the record to address some of the convenient stuff. First I am listing my rebuttal and below you will find the quotes from the email. Enjoy!

To All
I just can’t let this lauding of some of TJ’s work go without parsing the other side of the story.
First
OK I understand the admiration for TJ as I have tons myself, but keep in mind he was a willing owner of slaves.
ALSO
Second
This idea that there are tons of folks out there not willing to work and looking for those that are to bail them out is nonsense. The people that received the biggest bail out weren’t the bottom half or bottom 99% it was the top 0.001Percenters. Look at AIG, Goldman, Citi, hedge funds galore. They got bailed out because much of what we feel is sacrosanct about capitalism failed that is undeniable. I for one would be happy to work full-time for way less than the folks at the Big Banksters get paid PER WEEK!! But because the financial industry collapsed under CDOs, CDSs, leverage, and real-estate BS I can’t get a job and I know tons of folks like me. This argument that this all comes down to Obama and it is all his fault is so much nonsense if you believe honestly that what just happened stems from the last 2 years IN ISOLATION your crazy and need heavy dose of rationality. I know Socialists, I know Marxists, I know liberals and conservatives. Obama is hardly a left-winger and would laugh at the thought of embracing socialism I am sure.

Second
Paying our own debts? Really? I had nothing to do with the debts my generation and my sister’s generation and my girlfriends generation and my kids generation will have to pay. Look if you want to look at debt look at the bloated Defense industry (See F-35)
Third
Guns Guns Guns Guns Guns! Please find another canard. Guns killed that little girl who just wanted to meet congressman Giffords guns kill countless innocents throughout the world. Arizona is looking to allow for arms in the State House, in college classrooms. I for one believe in the right of everyone to bear arms BUT GIVE ME A BREAK do you really need an uzi or related semi-automatic? The government intrusion factor was never stronger than when Bush & Co. told us who we could marry and sleep with. When they listened into phone conversations all in the name of the War on Terror.

Finally
I would also note that Thomas Jefferson was adamant about the separation of church and state AND you have right-wing Republicans under the libertarian/Tea Party umbrella in Texas and Michelle Bachmannites conveniently forgetting this side of TJ. Also he would be insulted to see how education has taken a back seat to propping up the Military Industrial Complex. See Texas School Board and their efforts to essentially eliminate TJ from the history books of this country. Hardly folks you would cause liberals. Keep in mind the full scope of TJ.
From an article by Russel Shorto in The Times about the wacky Texas School Board (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/magazine/14texbooks-t.html?sq=jefferson%20texas%20school%20board&st=nyt&scp=1&pagewanted=all)

“The Connecticut Baptists saw Jefferson — an anti-Federalist who was bitterly opposed to the idea of establishment churches — as a friend.”
“In his reply, Jefferson said it was not the place of the president to involve himself in religion, and he expressed his belief that the First Amendment’s clauses — that the government must not establish a state religion (the so-called establishment clause) but also that it must ensure the free exercise of religion (what became known as the free-exercise clause) — meant, as far as he was concerned, that there was “a wall of separation between Church & State.” ”
From Sam Tanenhaus in The Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/weekinreview/21tanenhaus.html?sq=thomas%20jefferson%20texas%20school%20board&st=nyt&scp=1&pagewanted=all)
““Why Is Texas Afraid of Thomas Jefferson?” the History News Network asked, referring to the board’s recommendation that Jefferson, who coined the expression “separation of church and state,” be struck from the list of world thinkers who inspired 18th- and 19th-century revolutions. ”

From Jim McKinley Jr. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html?scp=2&sq=thomas+jefferson+texas+school+board&st=nyt)
“Even the course on world history did not escape the board’s scalpel.

Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)

SEE Excerpt from email below

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Thomas Jefferson

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.  A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.  If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive
The people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

I wish we could get this out to everyone!!!
I’m doing my part.  Please do yours……


In GOD we TRUST!

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